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NAMBLA & the ACLU - A Match Made in Hell

NAMBLA states that they are on an important, historic mission.  They state that their mission is simple - abolition of age-of-consent laws that classify sex with children as rape. NAMBLA is the North American Man/Boy Love Association. 

Charles Jaynes, 25, reportedly viewed the group’s web site shortly before the killing of Jeffrey Curley, a 10 year old boy, slain in 1997.  Jaynes also had in his possession some of NAMBLA’s publications. Also convicted in the killing was 24-year-old Salvatore Sicari.  Sicari, convicted of first-degree murder, is serving a life sentence without the possibility of parole.  Jaynes’ second-degree murder and kidnapping convictions enable him to seek parole within the next 20 years.  Was this a case of misunderstanding?  Does this fit with NAMBLA’s philosophy of man/boy love that is non-violent?  Hardly.  Prosecutors said Jaynes and Sicari were sexually obsessed with the boy, lured him from his Cambridge neighborhood with the promise of a new bike, and then smothered him with a gasoline-soaked rag when he resisted their sexual advances. They then stuffed him into a concrete-filled container and dumped it into a Maine river. Non-violent?  No.  Loving?  No.

The ACLU is a supporter of NAMBLA, representing the organization in the civil case related to the aforementioned murder.  The ACLU is representing NAMBLA PRO BONO.  Their official position:  “In representing NAMBLA, the ACLU does not advocate sexual relationships between adults and children. What we do advocate is robust freedom of speech. This lawsuit strikes at the heart of freedom of speech. The defense of freedom of speech is most critical when the message is one most people find repulsive.”  I am repulsed.  Repulsed by the idea that my children may not be able to say “…one Nation, under God” in school some future day - thanks to the ACLU - but this disgusting, vile organization is supported due to freedom of speech?

In February 2005, the FBI arrested three NAMBLA members at Harbor Island as they waited for a boat that undercover agents told them would sail to Ensenada for a sex retreat over Valentine’s Day with boys as young as 9.  The FBI also arrested four additional NAMBLA members in a Los Angeles marina where they also planned to set sail to the same bogus retreat.  These men are a cross-section of people you and I might interact with regularly:  a dentist, a special education teacher, a substitute teacher, a handyman, a flight attendant who is also a psychologist, a paper company employee and a personal trainer.  How horrific to know that a number of these men had daily interactions with children!  As noted in court papers, most of these men told the undercover agent they had been sexually involved with children historically, including boys they met on the Internet and others.  Looking more closely at these men, at least one of the men is a member of NAMBLA’s national leadership, a second organized their national convention in 2004 and a third has been a NAMBLA member since the 1980s.  Thank God these criminals have been discovered so no more boys are harmed.

So what of Charles Jaynes?  The Boston Herald reports that Jaynes is now battling efforts by his victim’s mother to uncover whether NAMBLA is bankrolling Jaynes’ prison canteen.  There were court affidavits from two inmates claiming Jaynes engages in sex acts in the prison without discipline, shows off his victim’s autopsy and has a fat canteen account courtesy of NAMBLA.  While one of these inmates has now recanted their story, questions are still present about what NAMBLA is doing for Jaynes while he is in prison.  I won’t link to NAMBLA’s disgusting site, but they do have a Prisoner Program for those convicted of pedophilia.  The program on their website clearly states that they do not financially support prisoners, but provides instruction on what type of information should be sent to these criminals.  Here’s what NAMBLA says about those incarcerated for, what they believe, are unfounded criminal acts:  “Incarceration is a terrible thing. For a boy-lover ground into the criminal justice system, it is an especially harrowing fate.”  What about the fate of that 10 year old boy whose lifeless body was stuffed into a container and tossed away into the river? 

Cross-posted at The Wide Awakes


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15 Comments
Jay said:

Shame, shame....you should have told me about this! This could have been crossposted on my site! Still would be nice...If you don't mind. Let me know...leave me a comment at my site if it is ok.

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NAMBLA & the ACLU - A Match Made in Hell

NAMBLA states that they are on an important, historic mission. They state that their mission is simple - abolition of age-of-consent laws that classify sex with children as rape. NAMBLA is the North American Man/Boy Love Association.



Jay said:

thanks!



epiphany said:

Thanks for the heads up on this one. Right now, I am gathering up my jaw from the floor. I cannot believe that such a vile organization as NAMBLA is actually getting support, but then again we are talking about the ACLU here, so I should know better than to be suprised.



The reason we have the statutory rape laws is that we don't believe children until a certain age can decide for themselves that they want to have sex. It's just disgusting that NAMBLA would receive any support.



I Think My Head Just Exploded

Well, once again the Anti-Christian Liberties Union has managed to make my jaw hit the floor and my head explode. Go figure…you think by now, I would not be surprised, but I am, because this is just sickening.



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Yes

It's fun to watch an organization respond to criticism. I've long had major problems with the ACLU, mostly for their blind bigotry against Christians. Now it looks like the FBI is looking into their state of affairs and they're whining like a teen d...



The ACLU has very often supported personal religious expression. They simply oppose government endorsement of religion.

As far as the NAMBLA case, the lawsuit alleged that NAMBLA was in part responsible for the murder. The ACLU's position is that the people who committed the crime is responsible, not a website. All you Christian hypocrits all the time lambast "liberals" as being against personal responsibility. You say we always want to blame somebody else. But, here in this case, when the ACLU defends that very concept that you Christian hypocrits always claim to support, well, that makes them "bad guys". I really, really can't stand you Christian hypocrits. There is no God. Get over it.

Before you lambast the ACLU, why don't you try to read their positions and understand them first? No, I suppose that is just asking too much. Morons.



Merri said:

Paul - your bullshit comments aren't even worth a response, but I can't stop anyway.

I've read plenty about the ACLU - I wouldn't hate that worthless organization as much as I do if I hadn't have gone to their site and read about their positions on many issues - boy scouts, pedophiles, sex offenders, the pledge, sex ed in school, abortion, etc.

I don't have to be Christian to have an understanding of what is right and wrong. When criminals and sex offenders get more support and attention from an organization than the victims of said crimes, when boy scouts are practically skewered by these people for doing nothing more than being boy scouts, etc., I come to the RATIONAL conclusion that I cannot and will not support the ACLU.

The ACLU wants to legalize child porn because they say it is "freedom of speech," but then they talk out of the other corner of their mouth to say they don't condone man/boy "love" and consider the acts of children and adults/children having sex (and it being recorded) a crime. Who are the hyprocrits, really? Perhaps YOU should read a bit more about the ACLU there, Paul. You may learn a few things.



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Your bullshit comments don't deserver a response, but I will anyway. The ACLU has never supported child porn, meaning they have never supported pictures or videos of children engaging in sexual encounters. I believe they might have supported computer generated or otherwise "fake" kiddie porn. I'm not sure about that, but they may have. And, I confess I'm not real keen on that idea myself, but, it is typical of you nutjobs to make blanket statements that "the ACLU wants to legalize child porn" when that is not what they have supported.

And, as far as the Boy Scouts, they have the right to discriminate. But, as soon as they do, they loose the right to use public schools, public funding, etc. Its real simple, I don't understand why you nutjobs can't see straight.



Merri said:

"I believe they might have supported computer generated or otherwise "fake" kiddie porn."

...and you call MY comments bullshit? Do you realize just how ridiculous that sounds? What the hell is "fake" kiddie porn?



Vinnie said:

Wow, Paul sure is going out of his way to defend child molestors, got something you'd like to tell us, Paul?